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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 09 Şubat 2008
This thread is opened to remember and inform the World about how the Turkic peoles, living all across Eurasia, have been systematicially massacred, destroyed, assimiliated, oppressed and discriminated by non-Turkic peoples and non-Turkic states. This thread's list also includes those that have used a systematic method of destroying Turkic cultural heritage. What the Turkic peoples suffered in history, especially after the 16th-17th centuries, can be described as a SYSTEMATHICIALLY MADE GENOCIDE.


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LIST OF COUNTRIES AND PEOPLES THAT HAVE DISCRIMINATED, OPPRESSED, ASSIMILIATED, DAMAGED, DESTROYED AND MASSACRED TURKIC PEOPLES - THUS, LIST OF COUNTRIES AND PEOPLES THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE OF TURKIC PEOPLES

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- ARABS: Betraying the Ottoman army during World War I (Syria, Jordan, Yemen, Palestine and Saudi Arabia are responsible from this), treating Turkish war captives in unhumanly ways; oppressing, sending away from their homes, massacring, banning languages, executing those that demand more rights among the Turkomans of Syria and Iraq (Baathist period); destroying Turkish cultural heritage (Saudi Arabia); confiscating properties and estates that legally belonged to the Turks (Egypt); supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country (Iraq, Syria and Lebanon) - NOTE: this group includes only the Arabs of Egypt-Syria-Iraq-Lebanon-Jordan-Palestine-Yemen

- ARMENIANS: Being a tool for Western imperialism; systematicially massacring the Turkics in Eastern Anatolia, Azerbaijan, Southern Caucasia and even Western Turkistan; destroying Turkish cultural heritage; attempting to attack Turkey from outside with the so-called genocide lies; making terrorist attacks on Turkish foreign affairs officials and civillians; keeping Nagarno-Qarabagh under occupation

- AUSTRIA: Systematicially destroying Turkish cultural heritage in Hungary and Serbia during the wars in the 17th-18th centuries; supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- BRITAIN: Attempting to invade Turkish territories after 1878; supporting and provoking the minorities against the Ottoman Empire; treating Turkish war captives in unhumanly ways throughout World War I; openly working against Turkey and the Turks during the Turkish War of Independence, trying to destroy those who resisted this; supporting the Greeks during the Cyprus Crisis; supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- BELGIUM: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- BULGARIA: Being a tool for Western imperialism; massacring Turkish civillians and destroying Turkish cultural heritage throughout 19th-20th centuries; driving out the Turks living in the country, attempting to assimiliate the remaining ones, denying their Turkish identities and claiming that they are Turkified Slavs

- DENMARK: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- FRANCE: Attempting to invade Turkish territories; supporting and provoking the minorities against the Ottoman Empire; openly working against Turkey and the Turks in Çukurova (Cilicia) during the Turkish War of Independence, using Armenians in massacring the Turks, trying to destroy those who resisted this (they gave up this after being thrown away from Çukurova); supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country; giving jail sentence to those who reject the so-called "Armenian Genocide" lies

- GERMANY: Treating Turkic war captives captured during World War II much verser in prisoner camps because seeing them as of "lower race", then using them for their own benefits; oppressing, forcing to work, randomly killing Turks in Crimea which it occupied during World War II; supporting separatist ethnic groups and religious terrorist organizations which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- GREECE and the GREEKS: Being a tool for Western imperialism; systematicially massacring the Turks and systematicially destroying Turkish cultural heritage in Greece, Anatolia and Cyprus; denying the existence of Turks living in Greece, oppressing them, limiting their religious-cultural freedoms; supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country; confiscating properties and estates that legally belonged to the Turks

- IRAN (especially Persians): Trying to assimiliate the Turkic peoples (especially the Azeris), oppressing them over their
languages, trying to destroy their Turkic identity by claiming that they are Turkified Iranians; keeping Turkic lands (Southern Azerbaijan, Khorasanid Turkomans, Qashghais and others) under occupation; supporting separatist and extreme-Islamist terrorist organizations against Turkey

- ITALY: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country; making logistic supply to PKK

- KOSOVO ALBANIANS: Oppressing Turks with the support of the USA, taking their educational rights away and not recognizing their language as an official language (before 1999, Turkish was one of the official languages in the region); being a tool for Western imperialism

- kurds: Rebelling against Turkey countless times, creating a separatist terrorist organization and murdering thousands of Turks; infesting, polluting and exploiting Turkish cities, leaving no stability and tranquility; attempting to assimiliate the Turks; creating nothing in the country but only exploiting; committing all types of crimes in the cities; attacking nationalist Turks even in the capital city; massacring the Turkomans in Iraq, confiscating their properties-estates, destroying their cultural heritage; being a tool for Western imperialism

- NORWAY: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA: Keeping Eastern Turkistan under occupation; oppressing the Turkic peoples (Uyghurs, Qazaqs, Salars, Qyrghyz, Yellow Uyghurs) living there; massacring the Turkics who demand more rights; exploiting the natural resources of Turkic lands it keeps under occupation

- PASHTUNS and the TALEBAN: Oppressing the Turkics in Afghanistan (Turkmens, Uzbeks, Qyrghyz, Qalachs), trying to assimiliate them, massacring them

- RUSSIA: Occupying and exploiting Turkic lands since the 16th century; sending Turkics to exile and taking their properties-estates away (examples of Crimea and Akhysqa); implying religious oppression; imposing to cultural assimiliation and destroying the cultural unity as well as the Turkic identity; massacring their intellectuals and those who demanded more rights; massacring Turkish civillians during it's wars with the Ottoman Empire, supporting the minorities as well as supporting them to genocide the Turks; supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- SERBIA: Systematicially massacring the Turks and systematicially destroying Turkish cultural heritage in Serbia and Macedonia between 1804-1913; destroying Turkish cultural heritage in Bosnia between 1991-1995

- SWEDEN: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- SWITZERLAND: Giving jail sentence to those who reject the so-called "Armenian Genocide" lies

- THE NETHERLANDS: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- UNITED STATES of AMERICA: Spreading anti-Turkish propaganda through missionary schools throughout 19th-20th centuries; provoking minorities (especially Bulgarians and Armenians); openly supporting the Armenians after the World War I; bringing down the Turkish war industry to point zero and making Turkish economy dependent to other countries after World War II; standing against Turkey during the Cyprus Crisis and imposing economic embargo; inciting the conflicts inside Turkey between rightists-leftists, Alevis-Sunnis, seculars-religious, Turkish-kurdish-other ethnicities, speeding this via it's men (like Kenan Evren) inside the country; supporting the PKK separatist kurdish terror by both physicially-logisticially and by morally; tolerating the oppression of Kosovo Turks to support the Albanians; supporting the kurds in Iraq against all of Turkey's interests, oppressing the Iraqi Turkomans to make the kurds happier, tolerating and supporting the oppression of Iraqi Turkomans by the kurds; using the Uyghurs for it's own profits
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Gönderen: Akhal Teke - 09 Şubat 2008
Thanx 4 document anda ;-)
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 09 Şubat 2008
Good information Anda.

Someday justice must happen and especially china, russia and zionists should pay. :x
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 09 Şubat 2008
I thank you my dear Anda brothers.

As Marka Ragnos said, I hope the revenge of our oppressed and murdered brothers would be taken in the future.
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 10 Şubat 2008
- BELGIUM: Supporting separatist ethnic groups which are against Turkey, allowing them to stay in the country

- BULGARIA: Being a tool for Western imperialism; massacring Turkish civillians and destroying Turkish cultural heritage throughout 19th-20th centuries; driving out the Turks living in the country, attempting to assimiliate the remaining ones, denying their Turkish identities and claiming that they are Turkified Slavs

Belgium is the most evil European country about that point. They clearly support pkk and dhkp-c (communist) terrorists, just with the hoop to overthrow the Turkish Republic. They release murderous terrorists. Really unbelievable. I'm ashamed to be born and to have spent all my life in such a country.

About Bulgaria, the situation is still worse: Belgians are Nordic-Indo-European, so I can understand why they hate us; some see still in me a certain Ottoman soldier and have a spirit of Crusade!!! However the Bulgars, led to their homeland by their Turkish Isperich Khan (whom great-grandfather is Attila, if I'm not mistaken), are Turkish by blood, and only by blood. How could a people can act like that? Have their women all be raped by the Slavs that they've always supported the Slav against the Turk? Did Turks organize a genocide against them? Do they believe in the "Batak" myth?
When the Communist era was ending for them, they've launched a new theory about they roots: they'd be Iranids and don't want to be considered as having the same roots than "Mongols".... Damn these people where you see them, such people are absolutely inferior. They reject their ancestors because they're ashamed of them and prefer the helen, the slav that both were slaves of their Hunnic ancestors! Becoming Christian-Orthodox doesn't mean getting assimilated, just like the survivors: Gagaouz Turks.
The most interesting thing in all these story is the fact that there are more "Mongoloïds" among them than among Turkey's Turks, because they have been deeply affected by their Tatar rulers.

TTK against these people.
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 10 Şubat 2008
About Belgium:

That country itsel is brittish-made fake-state who should not be even exist.
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 10 Şubat 2008
About Belgium:

That country itsel is brittish-made fake-state who should not be even exist.

For sure Belgium was British-made. When Bonaparte's French Empire has definitely lost the conflict against the rest of Europe, Belgium has been given to the Dutch Guillaume D'Orange just to weaken France. However, Belgians (both Walloons and Flemish) were Catholic whereas Guillaume and his people were Protestant.
Guillame has failed to treat Catholic people with justice, and never contributed to the South of his Country. It has brought a rising up with a French Spirit. Brussels was the first to rise up, finally, both French and Englishmen have supported the independence and a German nobel guy has become king: Leopold de Saxe Cobourg-Gota.

However, I think Belgians, and especially Walloons had been hard-working people (up to the 1970's). The industry is quite developped. We also know that when Belgium was invaded by Germans during WW2, Hitler had ordered not to bomb the works which were, at that time, the world's best ones!
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 11 Şubat 2008
Regarding Belgium, I think that artificial state should be divided between France and the Netherlands.

About the Bulgarians. The amount of Bulġar Turks that migrated to Moesia was rather low. Most of the modern Bulgars or Bulgarians are the descendents of Latinised Thracians and Slavic settlers, with only a few Turkic elements.
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 11 Şubat 2008
Regarding Belgium, I think that artificial state should be divided between France and the Netherlands.

It was the most important possibility, up to a few months ago. I don't know what will happen, but I think Belgium will go on to exist. The most important problem is the situation of Brussels; it's surrounded by Flemish-speaking people, whereas the 80% of the city is French speaking, not easy to share at all.

About the Bulgarians. The amount of Bulġar Turks that migrated to Moesia was rather low. Most of the modern Bulgars or Bulgarians are the descendents of Latinised Thracians and Slavic settlers, with only a few Turkic elements.

I don't think so, I remember having read an article about the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria. It was stipulated that there were many differences among these two people, and the most important one was the racial one: Bulgars were "Mongoloïd" (!:)), not the case for the Macedonians. When I pass through Bulgaria to go on holiday to Turkey, I can see that they're Slav-mixed, however the typical Bulgar still looks like a Turk. Genetic tests would say that the most strong element in the Bulgar genes is the Turkish one.

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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 11 Şubat 2008
I have been to Bulgaria too, and I have seen no one who looked liked the average Turkic from the Steppes. The Turkic Bulġars that came to Moesia was small in number as I have stated, and a few centuries later, they became assimiliated into the Thracian-Slavic subjects of the Bulgarian kingdom. Today's Slavic-speaking Bulgarians have nothing to do with the Turkic peoples.
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 12 Şubat 2008
I have been to Bulgaria too, and I have seen no one who looked liked the average Turkic from the Steppes.
No, Indeed Anda, but I think they look like Turkey's Turks. You say they weren't numberous when they had invaded the current Bulgaria; I don't know. However I don't think either, the information I gave hereunder about their anthropology are baseless.
Regards.
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Gönderen: ilteris7 - 12 Şubat 2008
 Nice list and good hjob Anda.

 But you forgot Jews and Israel. I add them too...

 Israel & Jews : Fought  against Turks in Gallipoli and Palestine Front with allying English( Their military unit was called Zion Mule Corps) in WWI, spying against Turks for English im WWI, supporting all kurdish bastards in North Iraq and other separatist kurd terrorists, in 2004 Attacking Turk Special Forces Convoy in Mosoul and killing 4 Turkish soldiers, desiring to take Turk lands for Greater Israel(from Nile to Europhate) and buying these lands whic are mostly water resources of Middle East. And exporting harmful seeds to destroy Turkish Agriculture.

 Never forget our Wise ATSIZ ATA claimed:

 " Jews are the enemy of all nations that they can sell the land and the flag where they lived for money"

 TTK
   

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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 12 Şubat 2008
And I would add that most USA-actions were/are lead from israel or from jews in US.
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 14 Şubat 2008
Three jews from USA in picture:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/533074798_95e5a530ea.jpg?v=0)

One pic can tell sometimes more than 1000 words. :wink:
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 15 Şubat 2008
Thank you for the share, anda.

Now I remember one such photo too:

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9310/kurdistanisraelusasc2.jpg)
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 16 Şubat 2008
Zionists aim is to create "greater israel" as Ilteris7 mentioned.

Naturally "kurdistan" would be part of that, and also kurds agree with "greater israel"-plan.

Then there is also other scum-nation in that area, armenia.

 :x

kurds, jews, armenians and all their lackeys have straight plan. They are creating their ideal world whole time.

I think that it is a time of massive counter attack!

That is the enemy(kiro):

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6132/kurd06mz2.jpg)

That is the enemy(armo):

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5467/leosk7.th.jpg)

That is the enemy(hook-nosed kike):

(http://www.citycon.fi/admin/files/GideonBolotowsky.jpg)

That is the enemy(golem/shabboz goy):

(http://www.ihr.org/webpics/bush_israel_flag%5B1%5D.jpg)




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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 16 Şubat 2008
Hehe thanx for the photos dear anda :D
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 17 Şubat 2008
I entirely agree with you my dear Brothers.
Kurds, Armenians, gypsies, zazas, ... and even the greeks are absolutely inferior to me. We need to re-organize such things:
(http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/43523/2005288078939998757_rs.jpg) (https://www.hunturk.net/forum/sistem.php?islem=yonlendir&url=aHR0cDovL2FsbHlvdWNhbnVwbG9hZC53ZWJzaG90cy5jb20vdi8yMDA1Mjg4MDc4OTM5OTk4NzU3)
(http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/42876/2005266931762983660_rs.jpg) (https://www.hunturk.net/forum/sistem.php?islem=yonlendir&url=aHR0cDovL2FsbHlvdWNhbnVwbG9hZC53ZWJzaG90cy5jb20vdi8yMDA1MjY2OTMxNzYyOTgzNjYw)

However, we need a war, a world war to carry out such a big cleaning.
e.g. the WW1 was an opportunity, we didn't fail, just before WW2, Atatürk dead and an armo (ismet inönü) got the control, it's why we failed to go on with cleaning. Atatürk did that against armeno-kurds of Dersim in 1938, if he was running during WW2, today Turkey would have been 100% Turk...

May Tengri Bless The Turk
May Tengri Gives us Turan
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 17 Şubat 2008
BTW: That armo-guy is armenian skinhead who always talks about aryanism. :lol:

I took that pic in his own profile from some pan-european forum. :lol:

I wonder why he not go to Europe talkin to local racists about brotherhood with him. :lol:
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 17 Şubat 2008
BTW: That armo-guy is armenian skinhead who always talks about aryanism. :lol:I took that pic in his own profile from some pan-european forum. :lol:I wonder why he not go to Europe talkin to local racists about brotherhood with him. :lol:

Ha Ha Ha
I can remember having read an article in which it was mentioned that a Greek got roughly beaten by SkinHeads in Germany, and that a few Turks had protected him from the German guys so that the Greek not to die; I wouldn't have reacted like that :)And yes, if this sub-human goes to Europe to talk about "IndoEuropean" (!) brotherhood, first they will laugh, and then they'll kill him... :) :)

By the way, I can remember this photo, from another site :)
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 18 Şubat 2008
Bloody idiots :D :D :D :D
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Gönderen: ilteris7 - 19 Şubat 2008
 I read a Turkish book about the immigrants in Sweeden. It was written that Swedish Skinheads hate Greek immigrants as they did the same thing to Assyrian immigrants too...

 TTK


 
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 19 Şubat 2008
Yes they hate. Though that greco/assyrian vs. swedes conflict is me scum vs. scum. :-D

About assyrians: There is alot of them in sweden. In my country I have seen only few. In my old class were three of them. :x
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Gönderen: ilteris7 - 19 Şubat 2008
Yes these assyrians are another shit too. Kıros killed and made genocides against them. However they accused about Turks not kurds. They cooperate with all kurd terrorists agains Turkey with the support and aids of Sweeden.

TTK
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 19 Şubat 2008
It is very interesting that why sweden protects kurds, somalis, assyrians, greeks and whatever, but still they ban using Finnish language in Finnish historical areas even.  :x

So their filthy state accepts anti-Finnish policy, but being anti-whoever other is racism. :?
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Gönderen: ilteris7 - 19 Şubat 2008
 There was a documentary program in Turkish Tv which was called Sınırlar Arasında(Between The Borders). The programmer of the Documentary was Banu Avar(she is still going on the programme).

 She made a program last year which was told about Sweedens Human Rights Policy.

 She criticisized Sweedens policy against our Saami(brothers). Sweeden governments banned saami language, culture life style, and  made cruel discriminations against them such as sterilizing Saami women too... And these Turanic brothers had no damage Sweden and Swedish people.

 I can undestand why Sweeden supported kurds. Off course it is not loving of these monkeys. They wanted to have resources in the Minor Asia where the kurds invaded. They havenot these resources(petrol, natural gas etc.).  However they have to main their luxury life-style in their country. So that they supported kıros.
 
 But I dont understand why they support assyrians, greeks, terrorists(kurds again) and other illegal immigrants. Because these have no resources for Sweeden, they only exploit the countries finance. Local Sweedes also dont like these becaus ethey are potential terrorists and criminals.

 I think Sweeden is playing a gambling. If it doesnot win, Sweeden will be demolished by these parasites which it has owned and protected.

 TTK
 

 
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 19 Şubat 2008
Yes, sweden have made much crimes against Saamis too. :x

Saamis sufered there similar like us once, and that still continues, though now in minor scale, but still.

The worst swedish rulers who were most quilty of Finnic genocide were gustav wasa, carl IX and carl XII. (Dont wonder why I not use capital letters).

I hope destruction of sweden, and the fact is that most areas in north of stockholm is historical Finnish and Saamis soil.

And even Skåne belongs to Denmark actually. :wink:
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 19 Şubat 2008

 I think Sweeden is playing a gambling. If it doesnot win, Sweeden will be demolished by these parasites which it has owned and protected.
TTK

Sweden will of course lose, I pray Tengri for that.
And yes, Swedes will suffer a lot from their jewish-connected allies, when kiros and their assyrians blood-brothers will rape their women, steal by pilferage in their houses. Just remember the kiro, in one of the turistic area of Turkey, when he raped 4 turists (Dutch and Russians, including one man!); because of that monkey, Turkey's reputation was very badly affected in the whole world.
Thus, Sweden likes playing, they'll pay it :)


Yes they hate. Though that greco/assyrian vs. swedes conflict is me scum vs. scum. :-D

About assyrians: There is alot of them in sweden. In my country I have seen only few. In my old class were three of them. :x

Greeks are happy to be part of the "Aryan" race:)!! However, they are confused with Arabs, everywhere in Europe. Reason for that is they're too hairy, and have always black hair and black eyes. The few blonds among them are raciallly Albanian or Slavic.
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 19 Şubat 2008
About greeks:

I heard once theory that romans moved alot of population from Palmyra (Syria) and Nabatea to Greece once, so that's why ancient greek people are not exist actually in Greece anymore.

I am not sure about that theory though...
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 21 Şubat 2008
I don't know that one, but most of the Greeks that were sent to Greece in 1923 were pre-Greek Anatolians who had adopted the Greek language during the Hellenistic period. Plus, most of the Northern (and maybe even Central) Greeks have largely Slavic and Albanian blood.

I am also very sick of those Scandinavian countries supporting groups against Turkey. At least Suomi is still pro-Turkish I guess.

Banu Avar is one of my most favorite TV shows indeed (actually, I watch only two programs in TV) :) Eventhough she has some leftist flavour, she is still doing many things that so-called "nationalists" in Turkey never do.
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Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 21 Şubat 2008
About greeks:

I heard once theory that romans moved alot of population from Palmyra (Syria) and Nabatea to Greece once, so that's why ancient greek people are not exist actually in Greece anymore.

I am not sure about that theory though...

Yes, today's Greeks have nothing to do with the ancient Greeks. I have even an entertaining story about that:

... It happens during the Occupation era of Istanbul (about 1919, by Englishmen, French and Italians).
At the university of Istanbul, when the Turkish professor of History enters in the classroom to teach Turkish History, Greek students (supported by their monkey armenian friends) stand up and say "we don't want to study your 'barbaric' history, let's talk about the magnificient Greek History and Civilization".

The answer of the Turkish teacher is amazing and relevant; "Yes, I'd talk about ancient Greeks, but what is the tie between you and them? You only are scum of Romans, heavily mixed with Albanians, Slavs, Northern Africans; don't be proud! Ancient Greeks are all dead!


Yes, I support entirely the Turkish teacher. Atsiz Ata says that too, "when, in 1821, the so-called Helens rised up for their independence, in the village neighbouring Athens, the spoken language was Albanian; these people have been Helenized systematically".

Moreover, recent genetic studies would have found Sub-saharian genes among Greeks. I think it's true. The only laight-haired and light-eyed among them have Albanian or Slavic blood. They aren't nice people.
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Gönderen: ilteris7 - 21 Şubat 2008
 Its very true statement, Altay Turan Anda...Atsız Ata and our teacher was extremely right.

 Orthodox Priests assimilate Christian Slavs(Macedonians, Bulgars) and Albanian tribes(Suliots, Arvanites-Arnavites etc.) with forming Greek Identity in the Greek Rebellion of 1821.

 Today there are many Orthodox Albanians which are called Arvanites in Greece. However they consider themselves Greek. 

 TTK
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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 21 Şubat 2008
Alıntı
I am also very sick of those Scandinavian countries supporting groups against Turkey. At least Suomi is still pro-Turkish I guess.

"Our" governemnt is anti-Turkish, but that does not make people anti-Turkish.

"Our" government is also anti-Finnish.
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 24 Şubat 2008
Very nice and correct story Altay-Turan Anda, thanks for sharing :D

Marka Ragnos Anda, I undersand you, because "our" non-Turkic government is also strictly Anti-Turkish.
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Gönderen: YazarTurk - 29 Şubat 2008
Brothers, all this just goes to add prove that the saying "The only friend of a Turk is a Turk", is true (I say this while meaning that Turk=Turanian=Finnish, Hungarian, Korean, etc.)

Forgive me if I seem like I don't know much on the subject, but there were some posts regarding the Assyrians. As far as I know, the Assyrians lived a long time ago in an empire in the Middle East, there is no Assyria today. Did you mean Arabs, or is it something else? I would be very happy if you could explain.
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Gönderen: ilteris7 - 29 Şubat 2008
Brothers, all this just goes to add prove that the saying "The only friend of a Turk is a Turk", is true (I say this while meaning that Turk=Turanian=Finnish, Hungarian, Korean, etc.)

All Turanians are our brother. Don separate them from our Turk Nations. Because of that we open this section.

Forgive me if I seem like I don't know much on the subject, but there were some posts regarding the Assyrians. As far as I know, the Assyrians lived a long time ago in an empire in the Middle East, there is no Assyria today. Did you mean Arabs, or is it something else? I would be very happy if you could explain.

Assyrians still live today in Turkey, Iraq, Sweeden and some other countries. In turkish we call them Süryani. They are also grandsons of Assyrians in history. Today there is a small Assyrian community in Turkey where they live in Diyarbakır, Mardin, Midyat...They left Turkey because of kurds attacks, genocides in the middle of last century. However they cooperated with all kurd terrorist organizations against Turkey with the help of Sweeden and accused Turkey because of kurds shits. Mainly most of assyrians live in Sweeden today.

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Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 29 Şubat 2008
We also have few assyrians here. :x
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Gönderen: ilteris9 - 29 Şubat 2008
But some Assyrians are still anti-k.rdish even today ;) Not all, though; most cooperate with those dog-monkey hybrids.
Başlık: Re: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: YazarTurk - 29 Şubat 2008
Thank you iletris7 brother for explaining the Assyrians. With the equals sign, I meant to say "The only friend of a Turanian is a Turanian", I was trying to show that there is no difference between Turk nations and Turanian nations.
Başlık: Ynt: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 01 Mart 2008
Well, also some non-Turanians can be friends. For example Celtic people.

And in friendship it sometimes dpeends what against we fight together. :wink:
Başlık: Ynt: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: YazarTurk - 01 Mart 2008
I agree brother, some non-Turanians can be friends with Turanians. Over the years, what I believe the saying means is that no matter how close of a friend a non-Turanian might be, he/she can always betray you in times of war or other conflicts. So, yes, you can, and I have been friends with non-Turanians before, but you can't trust them, at least not the way you can trust Turanians.
Başlık: Re: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: Altay-Turan - 02 Mart 2008
I agree brother, some non-Turanians can be friends with Turanians. Over the years, what I believe the saying means is that no matter how close of a friend a non-Turanian might be, he/she can always betray you in times of war or other conflicts. So, yes, you can, and I have been friends with non-Turanians before, but you can't trust them, at least not the way you can trust Turanians.

I live in Belgium and 95% of my friends are non-Turanian; but Belgian, Italian, Pole, ....
I've never had any Kurdish, Armenoïd or Jewish friend and I don't want to have any, after what I learn everyday in extra about these subhumans.
Başlık: Ynt: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: Marka Ragnos - 03 Mart 2008
Here naturally almost all my friends are Finns. Though one of my best friends is partly-Tatar, but that is not problem at all. :wink: He is proud of both his roots, and I agree with him. :)

I just live in area where almost all Turanians are Finns. :wink:
Başlık: Re: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: YazarTurk - 03 Mart 2008
I've lived outside of Turkey before, and all of my friends were non-Turanians once. It's fine, you can really be good friends with some people. Perhaps what I meant to say is, it's different when you're with your own kin then when you are with foreigners. I didn't mean to say there was anything bad or wrong with being with foreigners. Hope this is more clear :)
Başlık: Ynt: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: ilteris9 - 08 Mart 2008
I've lived outside of Turkey before, and all of my friends were non-Turanians once. It's fine, you can really be good friends with some people. Perhaps what I meant to say is, it's different when you're with your own kin then when you are with foreigners. I didn't mean to say there was anything bad or wrong with being with foreigners. Hope this is more clear :)

The same case with me ;)
Başlık: We Apologize!
Gönderen: Tonyukuk - 17 Mart 2011
The following pictures were published following the fiasco of a group of Turkish 'intellectuals' who signed an apology to the Armenians for something that we have never done in the first place.

First of all, We as in this forum apologize for having to share with you these disturbing images. They are all photographs of what the Armenians did to Turks in 1915. They document the REAL Genocide.

I have made translations available under each photograph.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/34nh0mh.jpg)

Translation:

Top Part:

We “apologize” for your having to have used blunt knives when beheading us and thus having had to spend a lot of time in killing us. 

Lower Part:

Two Turks beheaded by Armenians

Source:
Massacre Exerted by the Armenian on the Turks During World War 1 Pictures

(http://i55.tinypic.com/1kocx.jpg)

Top Part:

I “apologize” for striving to live and managing to survive your attempt to burn me alive.

Lower Part:

A Turkish woman in Kars who survived despite being burned by Armenians

Source:
Massacre Exerted by the Armenian on the Turks During World War 1 Pictures

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2rdkm1l.jpg)

Top Part:

I was willing to give anything, including my life, to protect my honor, and I left you with this reality, the reality of my death. However, I “apologize” for not having given you enough satisfaction as you raped my lifeless body upon my death.

Lower Part:

A Turkish woman named Pakize in Erzincan who was killed and raped by Armenians

Source:
Massacre Exerted by the Armenian on the Turks During World War 1 Pictures

(http://i56.tinypic.com/qp343s.jpg)

Top Part:

We “apologize” for the time, energy, and ammunition you wasted upon running into us and slaughtering us as we were returning to our village.

Lower Part:

Turkish soldiers who were martyred by Armenian committee members on 23 July, 1915, in the Lice borough of the province of Diyarbakir, in the villages of Kum and Çom. The soldiers had been discharged from service due to weather issues, and their hands and feet were bound as they were killed.

Source: Armenian Rebellions and Insurrection Movements

(http://i53.tinypic.com/yo2f7.jpg)

Top Part:

We “apologize” for failing to provide you with a better working conditions so that you could more easily murder us.

Lower Part:

Armenians making cartridges in vaults.

Source: Armenian Rebellions and Insurrection Movements

(http://i56.tinypic.com/260r15d.jpg)

Top Part:

We “apologize” for bringing to light your attempts to form an organized army through occasionally capturing from you weapons and supplies that would be enough to equip a battalion, and as such endangering your efforts at ethnic cleansing.

Lower Part:

A portion of the weapons captured from Armenians in Hacin (Saimbeyli).

Source: Massacre Exertd By The Armenian On The Turks During World War 1 Pictures.


translation by: Yazar Türk
Başlık: Ynt: Turkic Genocide
Gönderen: Karaimism - 18 Ağustos 2013
If we want to talk about ethnic cleansing then let's talk about what the Karaite Jews are doing to the Turanian Karaims!

It all goes back to the late 1800s when Jews began to make use of a pun and pretend to be Karaims in order to escape persecution under the rule of the Russian Tsars.

The Uralic Y-DNA Haplogroup N Tsars of Russia were not any worse to the Turkic Nations than the Turkic Nations have been to each other between ourselves but we had a privileged place of honour and respect in the Tzar's military officer ranks. The Turanian Karaims had served as imperial body guards since the time of Catherine the Great. Our Kaghans were even granted the privilege of anointing the new Tsars alongside the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Jews however were forcibly conscripted to be cannon fodder. Thus the Jews began to resent the privileges enjoyed by the Karaims.

Certainly from at least as early as the time of our greatest Bishop Gahan Tuhrul (blood brother to the father of Genghis Khan), the indigenous ethnic Church of the Karaims (Karaimism) reveres spiritual teachers from all other traditions (e.g. Moses, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad etc.) all as Tengri's messengers of the Tura (the customary tribal laws of the Turanians) and accepts the different names for Tengri in other languages of the world all as acceptable and valid terms for the one true God.

However this seemed too much like eclectic Paganism for the Jews who were pretending to be Karaims and so they did their best to Judaize our ethno-religious community from the inside as they pretended to be Karaims while at the same time they worked hard with the Bolsheviks to overthrow the Tsar.

When the Tsar was finally overthrown our ethno-religious community was "coincidentally" the first to be targeted for persecution by the Communists as they closed down our churches and confiscated our lands. From Anointing Tsars, our Kaghans were reduced to leading secret night services in Oak groves for the faithful worshippers of Tengri. We buried our tombs of our ancestors in brushwood to hide them from the grave robbers and vandals.

In 1967 our last remaining free Church building and ancient the centre of pilgrimage in East Jerusalem erected by the Seljuks was demolished by the Karaite Jews and re-built as a Synagogue! Thereupon they set about the task of writing the Turanians Karaims out of history and re-drawing the picture of the past from an entirely Zionist perspective which the whole world has now accepted. Their objective? To make it seem like there had been a continual Jewish presence in East Jerusalem for the past 1000 years, something they could not achieve without first erasing all memory concerning the Turanian Karaims.

And how have they dealt with the remaining Karaims? Believe it or not they have followed an active policy of breeding us our of existence! As if the Communists have not done enough to destroy our form of Tengrisim, the Zionists are taking our beautiful Kipchaq women to Israel while our men are left to marry local Balto-Slavonic girls who bring up the children with little or no interest in our Turanian heritage. This is alongside an active funded policy of assimilation (I am talking about backroom projects of the religious Zionists not open knowledge to most people in the Israeli government) whereby all Karaims are targets for conversion to Karaite Judaism starting with the heads of our communities (i.e. the religious leaders) where now there is only one Gahan (Turanian Karaim Kaghan) left in the world. Our numbers are down to about 200 knowledgeable people now and the rest are all in shell-shocked state like Zombies ready to swallow almost anything that the Zionists publish.

It is a complete and systematic Ethnocide and we need the support of our wider Turanian brethren if we are going to pull through this dark period. Most recently our focus on restoring our Seljuk Church in East Jerusalem the ridiculous criticism has come against us that we are the Biblical Gog who will incite the nations of Gomer and Magog against Israel in the last days.