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« : 04 Mart 2008, 21:40:36 »
Dear Brothers,

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(Türk Nazi Birligi = Turkish Nazi Union)

I've found this site, I think it's quite new, by browsing on Google.
After having read a few posts, I can say these guys are pretty like us. They talk about Turkish Racism, they hate Kurds (of course Jews :) ) and are very Secular.
However, the matter is that they use non-Turanian Pagan symbols (swastika, ...).

The usernames are also interesting: Siegfried, HeilHitler, WhiteTurk, HergertheJoyous, BurakStein, ...

You can easily understand that they were influenced by Mein Kampf ( that had been the bestseller a few years ago in Turkey; 100.000 copies)
 
What do you think?
I for one think that the fact they use non-Turk symbols and usernames is blamable (mainly influenced by the attractive Nazi Germany of the 1930's and 1940's), but, basically, they're Turanist (they don't talk about "Aryan" Supremacism, but Pure-Turks' supremacism). Let's say they're a bit wrong, but mainly in the right way.

I've to admit that I'm very attracted by Nazis' Organization, Discipline and sense of Honour. Most Turks love Hitler, as they appreciate Chemical Ali ...
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« Yanıtla #1 : 04 Mart 2008, 21:54:22 »
Brother, I couldn't look into the subjects. In the "duyuru" section, it said that those who write anything supporting Atsiz will be banned! I knew about a Turkish Nazi organization before, and was attracted by it. But when I looked in their site, it said things like "Central Asians are not Turks", and "Turks belong to the White Race, the white race is great, it has created all civilization, etc." I was dissapointed and saddened. Their beliefs repelled me, mostly because they say that the Turks from Turkey belong to the "Arian Race", and that people like Turkmens or Ozbeks aren't Turkish!

I have no ill feelings against the nazis, quite the contrary to be honest, but these "Turkish Nazis" seem to have the things wrong. However, I can't say much about this site as I can't go into the subjects and read what they have to say.
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« Yanıtla #2 : 04 Mart 2008, 22:14:29 »
Türks musn't love the Hitler because Hitler kills lots of Türk !

I hate him !

and i think about his subject :

Maybe we can go they're site and we camouflage our self we seems just like them :-)
then..
we can assimilation them..;-) :-)


In Türkish;

andalar ben cidden böle yapmayı düşünüyorum içimizde eritiriz onları ;-) sizce ? :-)
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« Yanıtla #3 : 05 Mart 2008, 00:22:19 »
Well, about Swastika. That symbol have been in different forms all over the world.

Some Swastika-type symbols were used also in pre-christian Finland, and I think that we can call Swastika quite universal symbol. :wink:

Well, if they are National Socialists, they should mainly care of Turkics, not Europeans.

Did NSDAP cared for example of Italians, Poles, Czechs? They cared of Germans. :wink:

And if they bans those who support Atsiz, they are just wannabe-germans.


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« Yanıtla #4 : 05 Mart 2008, 01:07:22 »
 I think they have some people in their side who had caucasian, laz, georgian, bosnian, albanian blood etc.  So that they dont like other Turks of Central Asia, Siberia... If you look at these guys carefully. They are only  enemies of kurds. They had no problems with other Non Turks who seems white. What kind of racism is that ?. I think it seems like another bad copy or clone of MHP(Nationalist Action Party, our fake nationalist, only pan islamist, kurdophile party)

 And a Turkish racist, Panturanist cannot be a Nazi... Because Turks arenot from Aryan Race. We belong to ETERNAL, NOBLE TURAN RACE. Have you ever seen a nigger nazi or zionist arab?. Dont spend so much time with these confused guys.

 We have only one leader BAŞBUĞ ATATÜRK, one guide ATSIZ ATA.

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« Yanıtla #5 : 05 Mart 2008, 01:38:09 »
Sorry to have opened the threat my Andas,
I didn't see their threat banning the ideas of Atsiz.
Atsiz is the only Turkish Ideolog for Turkists, banning his ideas is being non-Racist. We know how He taught us Racism.

Sorry again, I had thought that would be an interesting subject to discuss. Indeed, they're certainly difformed-faced Lazs, Georgians, etc.

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« Yanıtla #6 : 05 Mart 2008, 01:46:03 »
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And a Turkish racist, Panturanist cannot be a Nazi... Because Turks arenot from Aryan Race. We belong to ETERNAL, NOBLE TURAN RACE. Have you ever seen a nigger nazi or zionist arab?. Dont spend so much time with these confused guys.

Well, I consider National Socialism to ideology Nationalist ideology, and that was exist in some forms much before Hitler, so actually Hitler did not create new ideology.

In NS there is always following things:

-Nationalism
-Anticapitalism
-Anticommunism
-Socialism (Not anykind of marxist shit)
-Idea of racial purity
-Antizionism

So, for me whoever, except jews etc., can be somekinf of NS.

Well, I have not seen or heard about zionist arab, but I have heard pro-nazi niggers. Well, just good if niggers wants to create ethnical state for them. I care just that they create it to in Africa. :wink:

And Anda, even Germans are not from Aryan race. :wink:

Modern term of aryan is quite misunderstood. :wink:

Anyway, like I said, those kids are wannabe-germans just.


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I think they have some people in their side who had caucasian, laz, georgian, bosnian, albanian blood etc.  So that they dont like other Turks of Central Asia, Siberia... If you look at these guys carefully. They are only  enemies of kurds. They had no problems with other Non Turks who seems white. What kind of racism is that ?.

You are right Anda. They are not racists, they are skincolour-socialists (My created term here for mocking some pro-swede so-called NS here). :-D

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« Yanıtla #7 : 05 Mart 2008, 17:41:54 »
Yeah, there was a Turkish Nationalist Socialist site, and when I read what they believed in, they just looked like white wannabees and german wannabees to me.

I think that the ideology of Nationalist Socialism doesn't have to be pro-White or pro-German, Turkish Nationalist Socialism would refer to pro-Turkish or pro-Turanian beliefs, which would be right. As a result, I think that these "Turkish Nationalist Socialist" are not even Turkish Nationalist Socialist, but instead German or White Nationalist Socialists, which doesn't make any sense as they are neither white nor German, which is the same thing :)

Anyway, anybody who is against Atsiz and who says that our brothers in Central Asia aren't Turkish can't be nationalist.
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« Yanıtla #8 : 05 Mart 2008, 20:14:33 »

Well, I consider National Socialism to ideology Nationalist ideology, and that was exist in some forms much before Hitler, so actually Hitler did not create new ideology.

In NS there is always following things:

-Nationalism
-Anticapitalism
-Anticommunism
-Socialism (Not anykind of marxist shit)
-Idea of racial purity
-Antizionism

So, for me whoever, except jews etc., can be somekinf of NS.

Well, I have not seen or heard about zionist arab, but I have heard pro-nazi niggers. Well, just good if niggers wants to create ethnical state for them. I care just that they create it to in Africa. :wink:



 Anda,

 I know these... However you cant  tell these to the people in Turkey. It is a kind of taboo because of zionist propaganda. Many people thinks Nazi=German. If you defend it, your position becomes as same as the skinheads of germany in the public who burns Turkish people alive.

You are right Anda. They are not racists, they are skincolour-socialists (My created term here for mocking some pro-swede so-called NS here). :-D

 Nice fixing... You put the point. These guys have no info about Nazis, Nazism. They watch some documentary programs, war movies and off course American History X.  They see perfect SS guys in the TV. They want to be like them so that they are only spectator fans of Nazi.
 
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